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TJ Test Results Are In

This is alway a scary time of year for us: test result time. We are probably the only people who care about our students' scores as much as their family's care. So we've tracked down our TJ test prep class and tutoring students and have analyzed the results.

There were some disappointments (the kids who worked so hard and didn't score their best on the real test), and some surprises (the student who started off with one of the lowest diagnostic test scores and scored the highest of the class students AND made the second cut).

But all in all there weren't too many surprises. Students with algebra under their belts and half way through geometry fared better as a group on the multiple choice admissions test, but of our students who made the second cut nearly half were taking algebra I in 8th grade.

Highly motivated, mature, and independent students fared better - the disinterested students or those with weaker beginning scores did not fare as well. (Of course, these are generalities). Still, all in all, we are quite proud of our students efforts and we think they all walked away with a better understanding of standardized tests and what needs to be done to score well.

So how did Dalby's students do?

Out of 45 class students 42 took the January test.Of those 42, 30 (71%) made the first cut,two were wait-listed, and nine were offered admission (26%). In addition, three more of our other students made the second cut (one took the two January classes, one took the 7th grade verbal and essay modules, and one had a couple of hours of tutoring mainly for essay writing). See details below.


In contrast, according to one of my students, of the 3,119 students who applied 1,553 (50%) were accepted into the semifinalist pool and 480 (15%) were actually granted final admission into TJHSST. Dalby's preparation definitely improves your odds.

BUT WAIT A MINUTE - maybe those students would have gotten in anyway! Well, not according to their beginning diagnostic test scores versus their ending scores. Thirty-three of our students gave us their exact TJ scores broken down by math and verbal.

Decide for yourself whether our prep makes a positive difference.

Group Accepted or Waitlisted

County_______8th gr math____Diagnostic____TJ test results
1) Loudoun...........Algebra II.......35v37m72T.....47v43m90T.....waitlisted
2) Fairfax.............Geometry.......23v43m66T.....27v48m75T.....waitlisted
3) Loudoun...........Geometry.......34v25m59T.....42v45m87T.....accepted
4) Prince William...Geometry.......31v33m64T.....37v42m79T.....accepted
5) Fairfax.............Algebra I........42v45m87T.....44v42m86T.....accepted
6) Fairfax.............Algebra I........43v36m79T.....45v42m87T.....accepted
7) Fairfax.............Algebra I........41v35m76T.....42v46m88T.....accepted
8) Fairfax.............Geometry.......39v20m59T.....47v44m91T.....accepted
9) Fairfax.............Algebra I........40v35m75T.....40v44m84T.....accepted
10)Fairfax............Geometry........41v39m80T.....36V43M79T.....accepted
11)Fairfax............Geometry........34v26m60T.....43v47m90T.....accepted


Profile of our three additional students that were accepted to TJ.
12)Loudoun............Geometry..............37v47m84T..........48v49m97T
13)Fairfax..............Geometry...............45v45m90T..........47v49m96T
14)Fairfax..............Algebra I................35v45m80T..........not reported

Beginning range 23-45v, 20-47m, 56-90T
Ending range 27-47v, 42-49m, 75-97T

Group Making First But Not Second Cut

We have included the county as that might influence acceptance.

County______8th gr math______Diagnostic_______TJ test results

Fairfax...............Algebra I.............42v38m80T...........42v41m83T
Loudoun..............Geometry............40v41m81T...........35v35m70T
Prince William......Algebra I.............42v27m69T...........35v30m65T
Fairfax...............Algebra I.............36v35m71T...........45v40m 85T
Fairfax ..............Algebra I.............30v22m52T...........34v33m67T
Fairfax...............Algebra I.............34v33m67T...........not reported
Fairfax ..............Algebra I.............43v40m83T...........46v43m89T
Loudoun.............Algebra I.............32v30m62T...........47v37m82T
Fairfax................Algebra I.............39v37m76T...........50-60%ile
Fairfax................Algebra I.............46v34m80T...........42v37m79T
Fairfax................Geometry............42v33m75T...........46v36m82T
Prince William.....Algebra I.............35v38m73T...........45v43m88T
Arlington............Algebra I..............38v33m71T..........not reported
Loudoun.............Geometry.............43v27m70T...........44v37m81T
Fairfax...............Geometry.............34v29m63T...........37v41m78T
Fairfax...............Geometry.............43v32m75T...........45v39m84T
Fairfax...............Algebra I..............39v34m73T...........31v36m67T
Fairfax...............Algebra I..............34v29m63T...........46v36m82T
Fairfax...............pre-algebra.........36v29m65T...........not reported


beginning range 30-46v, 22-38m, 52-83T
ending range 31-47v, 30-43m, 67-89T

Group Not Making First Cut

8th gr math __________Diagnostic_____________TJ test results

Geometry...........................23v34m57T..................38v29m67T
Algebra I ...........................28v33m61T..................34v27m61T
Algebra I .......................... 29v26m55T..................25v37m62T
Algebra I............................39v26m65T..................36v29m65T
Algebra I............................30v28m58T..................30v25m55T
Algebra I............................37v27m64T..................not reported
Algebra I............................36v32m68T..................32v30m62T
Algebra I............................32v33m56T..................not reported
Algebra I............................27v28m55T..................25v40m65T
Algebra I............................15v15m30T..................not reported
Algebra I............................29v19m48T..................not reported
Algebra I............................37v31m68T.................a few pts short


beginning range 15-37v, 15-33m, 30-68T
ending range 25-34v, 25-40m, 55-65T

What about Cost?

I've had a few people mention that some local franchises have been giving them rather high cost estimates to improve test taken skills for TJ. Frankly, if you have to spend thousands upon thousands of dollars to help your child be competitive perhaps you should rethink the whole process. It should not take 200 hours of instruction to prepare a qualified student!
Below I have listed the cost at Dalby for the students who were accepted.

What was the cost to the students who made the first cut?
1) Class* only .....$590
2) Class + two January refresher classes ..... $790
3) Class + two January refresher classes + four hrs tutoring for PSAT $1,230
4) Class only.....$590
5) Class only.....$590
6) Class + two extra tests in January.....$640
7) Class + one extra January class.....$690
8) Class plus four hours of tutoring....$1,040
9) Class plus 2 extra essay classes.....$827
10)Class only.....$590
11)Class + one extra January class.....$690
12)Five-week essay/five-week verbal modules for 7th grader.....$870
13)Diagnostic + two hours essay tutoring and exam review........$330
14) January classes and practice tests.....$300

*Class was six instructional sessions and six practice tests with essays
Range of costs= $300 to $1,230 Mode=$590

Corrections: if you don't see your results here or you think I got the data backwards, please, let me know. I'll fix it and repost the page. Text me at 703-203-5796. -Kate updated 6/1/10

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